| 24 | | * Jason to contact Mateusz about BuildBot. |
| 25 | | |
| | 24 | * Jason to contact Mateusz about !BuildBot. |
| | 25 | |
| | 26 | == Transcript == |
| | 27 | {{{ |
| | 28 | <rbray> Looks like I am late. Are we ready to start? |
| | 29 | <jasonbirch> Sure. |
| | 30 | <rbray> You added lots of stuff. Shall we start with Goc? |
| | 31 | <jasonbirch> Complaining? Sounds good. |
| | 32 | <rbray> All mentors need a Google account. Can we just add that info onto the wiki? |
| | 33 | <rbray> Do we have all the projects we want listed? |
| | 34 | <--| TylerM has left #mapguide |
| | 35 | <jasonbirch> Add it here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/2007_Google_SoC_Application |
| | 36 | <sigq> Title: 2007 Google SoC Application - OSGEO (at wiki.osgeo.org) |
| | 37 | <jasonbirch> I'd love to see more stuff done (especially the JSON output from MapAgent, and Java SWIG changes) but can't step up for those. |
| | 38 | <rbray> I'd like to add one project for adding Web Services APIs (SOAP/REST/etc) to MG |
| | 39 | <rbray> We can get someone here to mentor the JSON output and/or Java SWIG enhancements. |
| | 40 | <rbray> I think. |
| | 41 | <jasonbirch> lol |
| | 42 | <jasonbirch> overcommiting? :) |
| | 43 | <rbray> Only if we get students on all of them :) |
| | 44 | <jasonbirch> That should be REST/SOAP/etc... SOAP is painful and overkill, and I'm tired of having it crammed down my throat by "enterprise" apps :) |
| | 45 | <jasonbirch> How do you see these working? Just for the MapAgent stuff? |
| | 46 | <jasonbirch> Or as a generic framework for application development? |
| | 47 | <rbray> Could be either. I'd like a more general approach to expose all the Service APIs to start. Then we can add to that. |
| | 48 | <jasonbirch> Sounds great to me. |
| | 49 | <jasonbirch> JSON could be added as an output type to those? |
| | 50 | <rbray> That would make sense to me. Especially if it's REST based. |
| | 51 | <rbray> My main goal would be to get a framework in place that we could later extend though. Something we can start experimenting with. |
| | 52 | <jasonbirch> Sounds good to me. |
| | 53 | <Haris> perhaps xml-rpc is something to consider to |
| | 54 | <jasonbirch> And updating MapGuide through blog posts :) |
| | 55 | <jasonbirch> I've added some actions around SoC here: http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/PscMeeting03-08-2007 These are pretty time-sensitive. |
| | 56 | <sigq> Title: PscMeeting03-08-2007 - MapGuide Open Source - Trac (at trac.osgeo.org) |
| | 57 | -->| zjames (n=zjames@209.217.116.147) has joined #mapguide |
| | 58 | <jasonbirch> everyone OK? |
| | 59 | <rbray> Sorry, I got interupted by the phone. Back now. |
| | 60 | <bdechant> Yup still here |
| | 61 | <jasonbirch> afk. lucky you didn't get sniped :) |
| | 62 | <rbray> Can everyone please update the GoC page by? Whats the required timeline, anyone know? |
| | 63 | <rbray> Haris: XML-RPC is a good option too. Lighter than SOAP... |
| | 64 | <rbray> Harris: so I'll add it to my project description as an option. |
| | 65 | <jasonbirch> real soon now. |
| | 66 | <Haris> yes much easier to start with |
| | 67 | <rbray> Let's say end of the week for the page to be complete, with google ids for all mentors. Sound ok? |
| | 68 | <jasonbirch> Haris, Paul, can you add a few more words to your descriptions? Assume the students don't know much about MapGuide |
| | 69 | <Haris> ok, I will do that |
| | 70 | <rbray> Jason: Paul is the absent PSC member today. |
| | 71 | <jasonbirch> March 12 is the application deadline. If we can do it be end of day today, it would be better. Not sure how possible that is. |
| | 72 | <jasonbirch> Hmm. Must be working on my stuff :) |
| | 73 | <rbray> I can add my Web Service on today. |
| | 74 | <rbray> Maybe he is helping with that FGS installer :) |
| | 75 | <jasonbirch> Better not be... :) |
| | 76 | <jasonbirch> I'll flesh out the Swig one. Not sure what to say about JSON. Can you incorporate it in WS? |
| | 77 | <rbray> Ok, let's try and get the updates done today. Jason can you send a reminder on the PSC list after the meeting? |
| | 78 | <jasonbirch> Sure |
| | 79 | <rbray> Jason: Yes I can do that. Trevor Wekel would be the mentor on Java/SWIG. |
| | 80 | <jasonbirch> Can you ask him to send me his google account? |
| | 81 | <jasonbirch> Or just enter it into the OSGeo application? |
| | 82 | <rbray> Have all of our projects been copied into the application? |
| | 83 | <jasonbirch> Not yet. |
| | 84 | <jasonbirch> Linked currently. |
| | 85 | <rbray> OK good. I'll ask him to send you his id or update the page. |
| | 86 | <rbray> Ok, anything else on GoC before we move on? |
| | 87 | <Haris> Jason, Is tommorow morning (CET time ) to late ? |
| | 88 | <jasonbirch> No Haris, I'm sure it's fine. |
| | 89 | <rbray> Ok, next topic: Doxygen. |
| | 90 | <jasonbirch> I think that's mine :) |
| | 91 | <jasonbirch> I'd really like to see a couple things: generation of the PHP search script that is an option, and including inherited methods/properties in the class defintions. |
| | 92 | <jasonbirch> I could play around with this myself, but would like the existing conf file to start with... |
| | 93 | <rbray> Inherited methods are there. Just click the All Methods link. |
| | 94 | <rbray> I'll ask pubs to commit the config file. I did not realize it was not part of the repository. |
| | 95 | <jasonbirch> ? where's the All Methods link? |
| | 96 | <rbray> In each class page. |
| | 97 | <jasonbirch> Oh found it I think. All Members. I find the system odd. It seems like there are two pages for each class or something. |
| | 98 | <rbray> Yea, there may be a cleaner way by tweaking the config file. I don't know much about it. |
| | 99 | <rbray> Search enabling is pretty easy. |
| | 100 | <jasonbirch> Looks that way. |
| | 101 | <rbray> Frank would like us to cut down the size of the output too, but I am not sure what to cut. |
| | 102 | <jasonbirch> Hmm. Our documentation is proprietary :) Is it going to piss folks off if I start messing with it? |
| | 103 | <jasonbirch> (sorry, documentation DEVELOPMENT PROCESS) |
| | 104 | <rbray> Not if the Open Source build uses it's own config file. |
| | 105 | <rbray> We we should be doing anyway. |
| | 106 | <rbray> We = Which |
| | 107 | <jasonbirch> Just need a few more volunteers :) |
| | 108 | <jasonbirch> I'm pretty happy with the activity on the mailing list these days, btw. |
| | 109 | <rbray> Yes it is pretty balanced, with a lot more folks answering. |
| | 110 | <rbray> Its not just the Jason and Andy show :) |
| | 111 | <rbray> So if I get all this doxygen stuff added should I add a ticket and assign it to you? |
| | 112 | <jasonbirch> Having core developer involvement is still pretty darn important too :) |
| | 113 | <Andy_Morsell> (Thankfully) |
| | 114 | <jasonbirch> Sure :) I'd like to see a quick fix that adds the search script. |
| | 115 | <jasonbirch> And I'm sure that Andy_Morsell would too :) |
| | 116 | <rbray> Hey helping OS users is actually part of our goals. |
| | 117 | <Andy_Morsell> I've been clamoring for searching ever since the switch to Doxygen. |
| | 118 | <jasonbirch> Performance measures? |
| | 119 | <rbray> Yep. It's great because it shows corporate commitment. |
| | 120 | <rbray> Does anyone care for the diagrams in Doxygen. Maybe that would be a way to cut down size. |
| | 121 | <jasonbirch> There are a few items I could do without. |
| | 122 | <jasonbirch> I do like the inheritance diagrams though. |
| | 123 | <jasonbirch> It's the huge graphs that aren't all that useful for me. |
| | 124 | <Andy_Morsell> They're almost impossible to read at screen resolution (maybe a wall poster would work) so I could live without the super granular diagrams. |
| | 125 | <jasonbirch> I'll try a few configs anyway... and maybe post them on my site. |
| | 126 | <jasonbirch> Sometime in December. |
| | 127 | <jasonbirch> hey, reload your browsers, I added an agenda item. |
| | 128 | <jasonbirch> So... |
| | 129 | <rbray> Doh |
| | 130 | <jasonbirch> In general, this page really needs some work: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/MapGuide_Project_Update_-_2007_Q1 |
| | 131 | <sigq> Title: MapGuide Project Update - 2007 Q1 - OSGEO (at wiki.osgeo.org) |
| | 132 | <rbray> Ok, we are running out of time fast. Lets move on. |
| | 133 | <rbray> Yes it does. Do you know Tylers deadline? |
| | 134 | <jasonbirch> If everyone could add some important items, add verbiage, maybe link to some implementations, then that would be great. |
| | 135 | <jasonbirch> Timeline is here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Newsletter_Volume_1 |
| | 136 | <sigq> Title: Newsletter Volume 1 - OSGEO (at wiki.osgeo.org) |
| | 137 | <TomMGOS> I'll look up and add the dates of some of the other releases |
| | 138 | <rbray> Ok, so we have a couple of weeks. I can certainly add some stuff next week. |
| | 139 | <rbray> BTW - Thanks for getting the ball rolling on this Jason. |
| | 140 | <jasonbirch> On a personal note, I could really use some short notes on the history of proprietary MG for the article I'm behind on. I only came into it in 2001, and missed the whole ADSK acquisition, etc, etc. I didn't even get ColdFusion bundled with my second license. I'd be happy to get an input off-list. And I'll be expecting quotes from all of you at some point in the article. danmo included. |
| | 141 | <jasonbirch> OK, so over next week, can everyone look at that page and update as possible? |
| | 142 | <Andy_Morsell> Yes. Man, you're a busy guy Jason. I really don't know how you're doing all of this........ |
| | 143 | <rbray> Jason, did you grab the stuff from the About page? |
| | 144 | <jasonbirch> (me neither) |
| | 145 | <jasonbirch> There's an about page? :) |
| | 146 | <rbray> Yes it has some history. I can elaborate if you want more. |
| | 147 | <rbray> mapguide.osgeo.org/about.html. |
| | 148 | <jasonbirch> That's useful. Must have read it at some point, but I don't remember. |
| | 149 | <jasonbirch> I'll come to you for confirmation. |
| | 150 | <rbray> Sounds good. |
| | 151 | <rbray> Now what about BuildBot? |
| | 152 | <jasonbirch> mloskot volunteered to help get us configured in April if we are. He'd done for FDO previously, but there didn't seem to be a lot of interest. Need to judge interest here first. |
| | 153 | <jasonbirch> And there are Windows VMs avaliable with buildbot agents on them. |
| | 154 | <rbray> Cool. Well I am all for it. I think public builds is a good next step for the project. |
| | 155 | <jasonbirch> Here's FDO's broken (because of SVN changes) version: http://buildbot.osgeo.org:8501/ |
| | 156 | <sigq> Title: BuildBot: FDO (at buildbot.osgeo.org:8501) |
| | 157 | <rbray> That is as long as I am not doing the work :) |
| | 158 | <jasonbirch> My main reason for wanting this is that as we add platform support it will make sure that it is maintained. |
| | 159 | <jasonbirch> And if it isn't, the appropriate developer gets "blamed" :) |
| | 160 | <rbray> Yea, but at the moment BuildBot is only running on FC4 yes? |
| | 161 | <jasonbirch> The server is, but I think there may be multple agents. |
| | 162 | <rbray> Is the plan to run multiple VMs with different distros? |
| | 163 | <jasonbirch> Maybe? |
| | 164 | <jasonbirch> http://buildbot.osgeo.org:8500/ |
| | 165 | <sigq> Title: BuildBot: GDAL (at buildbot.osgeo.org:8500) |
| | 166 | <rbray> Hmm, all the telescience blades are running FC4. Not sure thate are any outside agents. |
| | 167 | <jasonbirch> http://buildbot.osgeo.org:8502/ |
| | 168 | <sigq> Title: BuildBot: PROJ.4 (at buildbot.osgeo.org:8502) |
| | 169 | <jasonbirch> Both of these have different platforms building. |
| | 170 | <jasonbirch> Some of the telescience blades are running Solaris I think :) |
| | 171 | <TomMGOS> BTW, looks like the build bot for FDO needs to be updated to point to the new subversion repositories; that's why they are failing. |
| | 172 | <rbray> How can you tell the platform? |
| | 173 | <jasonbirch> Osmosis (I don't think it's documented) |
| | 174 | <jasonbirch> TomMGOS: yes, but mloskot's been busy, and unsure whether anyone was benefiting from the FDO config. |
| | 175 | <rbray> Click the build server link, there is a description. Sorry I am slow. |
| | 176 | <jasonbirch> Oh. Good. |
| | 177 | <jasonbirch> PPC build :) |
| | 178 | <TomMGOS> Anyone can even force a build from there. Nice |
| | 179 | <rbray> We are internally still doing nightlys using BuildForge. But limited in platform to Fedora/Redhat. |
| | 180 | <rbray> It would be great to open this up to different platforms. |
| | 181 | <jasonbirch> Right. Is it even possible to build MG from the commandline on Windows? |
| | 182 | <TomMGOS> Yes, that's how we build it. |
| | 183 | <jasonbirch> Would it be possible to add that stuff to the repository? |
| | 184 | <rbray> We should probably document that magic at some point. |
| | 185 | <jasonbirch> It's easy to do with FDO because there are bat files; I'm missing that in MG. |
| | 186 | <jasonbirch> And I hate clicking in GUIs. |
| | 187 | <jasonbirch> :) |
| | 188 | <rbray> We'll have to look. I don't see why we could not add them to SVN. |
| | 189 | <jasonbirch> OK, so there is interest in BuildBot. I'll let Mat know. |
| | 190 | <rbray> Yep |
| | 191 | <rbray> How is the PostGIS provider coming BTW. I have not seen a beta announcement yet. |
| | 192 | <jasonbirch> Getting closer daily. Looking at Monday (no, not last Monday) now though :( |
| | 193 | <rbray> I can't wait to try it out. |
| | 194 | <rbray> Ok gang is that a wrap for today. |
| | 195 | <jasonbirch> Me too. Thanks Bob. |
| | 196 | <rbray> Ok, lets adjourn then. Thanks everyone. |
| | 197 | <Haris> bye |
| | 198 | <jasonbirch> I've posted actions here: +1 |
| | 199 | <bdechant> Bye |
| | 200 | <jasonbirch> http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/PscMeeting03-08-2007 |
| | 201 | <sigq> Title: PscMeeting03-08-2007 - MapGuide Open Source - Trac (at trac.osgeo.org) |
| | 202 | <jasonbirch> (paste error :) |
| | 203 | <rbray> Thanks Jason. I'll post the transcript shortly. |
| | 204 | }}} |
