#5262 closed enhancement (wontfix)

Add support of Undefined Cartesian SRS (-1)

Reported by: lbartoletti Owned by: pramsey
Priority: medium Milestone: PostGIS 3.4.0
Component: postgis Version: 3.3.x
Keywords: Cc: lbartoletti

Description (last modified by lbartoletti)

Postgis uses 0 as undefined SRS. But you can have an undefined geographic srs (0) and an undefined cartesian srs (-1). This is what is proposed in the GeoPackage table[1][2] (and I think it comes from an OGC standard I forgot).

If, with ogr2ogr, I convert my "local" cartesian table to postgis, it will be an undefined srs (0, since there is a constraint CHECK (srid > 0 AND srid ⇐ 998999) and SRID_UNKOWN is 0[3]).

Can cause trouble if you have two undefined tables, one geographic and the other one cartesian.

[1] https://gdal.org/drivers/vector/gpkg.html#coordinate-reference-systems

[2] http://www.geopackage.org/guidance/getting-started.html#gpkg_spatial_ref_sys

[3] https://github.com/postgis/postgis/blob/3e38e0b83b98925122bb22dff958a7a603ee4a42/liblwgeom/liblwgeom.h.in#L210

Change History (5)

comment:1 by lbartoletti, 19 months ago

Description: modified (diff)

comment:2 by robe, 19 months ago

Milestone: PostGIS 3.3.2PostGIS 3.4.0

I'm moving this to 3.4 as I don't think it's something we should be changing in a stable

comment:3 by pramsey, 17 months ago

It's not possible to literally store -1 in the SRID slot, as we moved to positive-only in order to maximize our use of the limited number of bits available in our 24-bit SRID slot in the serialization. Having a sign bit and then using only one negative SRID would mean throwing away half our SRID storage space. Not sure why using 0 is not practicable for 99% of use cases.

comment:4 by robe, 17 months ago

I haven't heard anyone complaining about it and srid is just a number. Is there a new special use case growing popular that we are not aware about that needs this distinction?

I mean either way the spatial ref is not going to be in our spatial_ref_sys so it's up to the user to make sense of it anyway.

comment:5 by pramsey, 14 months ago

Resolution: wontfix
Status: newclosed
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