version 17 create osgeo_menu image for the desktop

[astrid_emde]

we need a desktop background image for version 17. We asked the FOSS4G Bèlem team for input. They have send some maps that we could use.

[astrid_emde]

First two suggestions. More will follow -1. -2.

[astrid_emde]

Hi all, please have a look and give feedback.

[edso]

moin Astrid,

wrt. to desktop icon visibility/readability a dark map is better. we could add some dark translucency on the left side where icons reside to mitigate that. from your suggestions desktop_1 looks darkest.

additionally i'd add some outline to the OSGeoLive Logo also to make sure it is clearly visible even if the color behind matches it to closely.

i can do the steps above if you provide the source images if you want to.

[cvvergara]

These files are the ones to be updated:

• ​https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/doc/images/projects/osgeolive/osgeolive_install_start.png
• ​https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/doc/images/projects/osgeolive/osgeolive_menu.png

[kalxas]

I like both 5 and 6. 5 has the FOSS4G full logo but the OSGeoLive logo is too high I would prefer 6 for the desktop

Any other opinions/preferences?

[edso]

for ease of overview i'll add all of Astrid's suggestions in one post to look at

osgeo-desktop_1.png

osgeo-desktop_2.png

osgeo-desktop_3.png

osgeo-desktop_4.png

osgeo-desktop_5.png

osgeo-desktop_6.png

[edso]

like osgeo-desktop_6 as well. just a few notes

1. i seem to remember that we need a specific size/aspect-ratio for the default background
2. osgeo-desktop_6 needs some fixing of the borders (s.b.) there are black leftover areas
3. the bottom ornamental band can be extended a bit neatly, there seems to be some leftover black content behind it as well (s.b.)

[astrid_emde]

Hello,

thanks a lot for the feedback.

I like number 6 too.

More feedback from the @osgeolive team members?

If we take number 6 as final I can work on the final image.

1. what is the size/aspect-ratio for the default background
2. fix border -> yes
3. ornament fixes / foss4g logo move upwards
4. thanks for the suggestions in the notes images - all good

I wrote a mail to the FOSS4G team waiting for their go. And then I ca nwork on the final image.

[edso]

wrt. 1. you can probably take the last desktop images as orientation ​https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/commit/35916cc2b79d98ae830cf3f6a423a38ad4a817a9

professionally i'd suggest to design for a 3:2 (or 4:3) ratio and layout loge etc. so that it can be zoomed in safely as 16:9. the lubuntu desktop supports "Zoom to image to fill entire screen". that should cover the basic setups.

[astrid_emde]

I received a new map from the FOSS4G team and worked on a new version of desktop 6.

Feedback please.

See version_6_2

• size 1024x768

[astrid_emde]

6_2 see how the desktop would ok like

[astrid_emde]

This is how the desktop would look like.

• I am not so happy with the contrast of the icons on the logo
• the map is not sharp
• you can not see the bottom line wit the pattern

Any idea how to improve it?

[astrid_emde]

I created a version 7

• map was taken from ​https://2024.foss4g.org/en/map/#12/-1.44585/-48.47279
• what do you think about the version 7
• the map needs a different version without the photo marker
• for better readability the map could move more to the left to have the icons on the blue background

[edso]

hey Astrid,

i took your design and tried to visualize some enhancements. just quick hacks nothing fancy.

1. i reduced the opacity of the background elements to 50% for the icons and labels to become better readable (logo etc. should be excluded, for simplicity sake i didn't)
2. desktop label text colors changed to black with grey50 outline
3. design for 4:3 but with the possibility of cropping top/bottom to 16:9 in mind (see below). keeping the cute bottom border for 4:3 only would probably be a good idea. having the map start from the very top probably as well.

hope that helps.

design a 4:3 with borders on top/bottom

that when cropped in a 16:9 resolution still works

[edso]

just a quick concept.

1. doubling the bottomborder height,
2. rotate and place a copy on top too, shifted alignment of pattern for more interesting look.
3. realign middle to fit better in 16:9

[astrid_emde]

Hello @edso, thank you very much for your feedback. Sounds very good. I will check later today.

[edso]

looks good. but

1. something went wrong with the OSGeoLive 17 logo. the number has a corrupted outline.
2. generally the logos could be bigger, maybe double the size
3. and should be placed a little more image centered. older monitors tend to crop some pixels from the displayed content. usually 10% of width/height as distance are considered screensafe.

EDIT: just tested in a vm

4. OSGeo logo needs to be put up as the taskbar overlaps it in 16:9 (see below) so maybe 20% distance to the bottom here to be safe

4:3 looks good

640x480 1024x768

16:9 1280x720 3840x2160

[astrid_emde]

@edso - thank you for the feedback. I moved the logo and made a PR for the next build. Hope it is ok now.

@edso - maybe you could work on the desktop image for version 18 :)

[cvvergara]

This images need update:

• ​​https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/doc/images/projects/osgeolive/osgeolive_install_start.png
• ​​https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/doc/images/projects/osgeolive/osgeolive_menu.png

[edso]

Replying to astrid_emde:

@edso - thank you for the feedback. I moved the logo and made a PR for the next build. Hope it is ok now.

if you attach i could doublecheck it

@edso - maybe you could work on the desktop image for version 18 :)

well, i offered in comment 3 already, but without source images there's little to do.

maybe a joint effort next time on a shared file platform, exchanging XCF/PSD until we are satisfied?

wrt. the PR

we will need to modify the desktop settings for the image to work properly, namely

Wallpapermode -> zoom
FgColor -> #000000
ShadowColor -> #7f7f7f

with changes to be applied here ​https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_desktop.sh#L47

holler if you need me to prepare a PR to that regard.

[edso]

ok, just received the alpha3 sporting the change

Version 17.0alpha3
====================
 * Desktop image for FOSS4G 2024 Belem

at this point i'd suggest @astrid_emde to simply provide the source images/composition for me to finalize it. it might save some back and forth in this thread. while positioning is better, it

1. still has the outline issue on the number 17 (see screenshots).
2. generally logos that seem more blurry than necessary
3. as mentioned above, Wallpapermode,FgColor,ShadowColor need to be patched.

if you provide me the needed source data i will happily come up with a PR on github :)

[edso]

finishing touches are up as PRs on github ​https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/pull/416 ​https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/pull/415

the result should look like these