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#2485 new task

version 17 create osgeo_menu image for the desktop

Reported by: astrid_emde Owned by: osgeolive@…
Priority: critical Milestone: OSGeoLive17.0
Component: OSGeoLive Keywords:
Cc: osgeolive@…

Description

we need a desktop background image for version 17. We asked the FOSS4G Bèlem team for input. They have send some maps that we could use.

Attachments (27)

osgeo-desktop_1.png (3.8 MB ) - added by astrid_emde 2 months ago.
osgeo-desktop_2.png (2.7 MB ) - added by astrid_emde 2 months ago.
osgeo-desktop_3.png (2.5 MB ) - added by astrid_emde 2 months ago.
osgeo-desktop_4.png (2.7 MB ) - added by astrid_emde 2 months ago.
osgeo-desktop_5.png (787.6 KB ) - added by astrid_emde 8 weeks ago.
osgeo-desktop_6.png (1.5 MB ) - added by astrid_emde 8 weeks ago.
osgeo-desktop_6.notes.png (1.3 MB ) - added by edso 7 weeks ago.
Screenshot 2024-11-01 124301.png (1.0 MB ) - added by edso 7 weeks ago.
Screenshot 2024-11-01 124228.png (935.4 KB ) - added by edso 7 weeks ago.
osgeo-desktop_17_1024_768_version_6_2.png (952.6 KB ) - added by astrid_emde 6 weeks ago.
desktop_version_6_2_live.png (1.1 MB ) - added by astrid_emde 6 weeks ago.
6_2 see how the desktop would ok like
osgeo-desktop_7_2.png (736.9 KB ) - added by astrid_emde 6 weeks ago.
desktop_7_2_screenshot.png (1.0 MB ) - added by astrid_emde 6 weeks ago.
43-1024x768.png (451.2 KB ) - added by edso 6 weeks ago.
169-1280x720.png (598.8 KB ) - added by edso 6 weeks ago.
typo-colors.png (86.9 KB ) - added by edso 6 weeks ago.
osgeo_quickdraft_ratios-v2 copy.png (1018.0 KB ) - added by edso 6 weeks ago.
osgeo-desktop_17_version_6_with_opacity.png (934.5 KB ) - added by astrid_emde 6 weeks ago.
640x480.png (830.0 KB ) - added by edso 6 weeks ago.
1024x768.png (857.8 KB ) - added by edso 6 weeks ago.
1280x720.169.png (764.2 KB ) - added by edso 6 weeks ago.
3840x2160.169.png (784.2 KB ) - added by edso 6 weeks ago.
169-1920-alpha3.png (662.5 KB ) - added by edso 5 weeks ago.
logos.png (88.1 KB ) - added by edso 5 weeks ago.
osgeo1213-1024x768.png (764.6 KB ) - added by edso 4 days ago.
osgeo1213-1920x1080.png (650.7 KB ) - added by edso 4 days ago.
osgeo1213-1920x1440.png (562.8 KB ) - added by edso 4 days ago.

Change History (49)

comment:1 by astrid_emde, 2 months ago

First two suggestions. More will follow -1. -2.

by astrid_emde, 2 months ago

Attachment: osgeo-desktop_1.png added

by astrid_emde, 2 months ago

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by astrid_emde, 2 months ago

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by astrid_emde, 2 months ago

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comment:2 by astrid_emde, 2 months ago

Hi all, please have a look and give feedback.

comment:3 by edso, 2 months ago

moin Astrid,

wrt. to desktop icon visibility/readability a dark map is better. we could add some dark translucency on the left side where icons reside to mitigate that. from your suggestions desktop_1 looks darkest.

additionally i'd add some outline to the OSGeoLive Logo also to make sure it is clearly visible even if the color behind matches it to closely.

i can do the steps above if you provide the source images if you want to.

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by astrid_emde, 8 weeks ago

Attachment: osgeo-desktop_5.png added

by astrid_emde, 8 weeks ago

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comment:5 by kalxas, 7 weeks ago

Cc: osgeolive@… added
Milestone: OSGeoLive17.0
Priority: normalcritical

I like both 5 and 6. 5 has the FOSS4G full logo but the OSGeoLive logo is too high I would prefer 6 for the desktop

Any other opinions/preferences?

by edso, 7 weeks ago

Attachment: osgeo-desktop_6.notes.png added

in reply to:  description comment:6 by edso, 7 weeks ago

for ease of overview i'll add all of Astrid's suggestions in one post to look at

osgeo-desktop_1.png https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo-desktop_1.png

osgeo-desktop_2.png https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo-desktop_2.png

osgeo-desktop_3.png https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo-desktop_3.png

osgeo-desktop_4.png https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo-desktop_4.png

osgeo-desktop_5.png https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo-desktop_5.png

osgeo-desktop_6.png https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo-desktop_6.png

comment:7 by edso, 7 weeks ago

like osgeo-desktop_6 as well. just a few notes

  1. i seem to remember that we need a specific size/aspect-ratio for the default background
  2. osgeo-desktop_6 needs some fixing of the borders (s.b.) there are black leftover areas
  3. the bottom ornamental band can be extended a bit neatly, there seems to be some leftover black content behind it as well (s.b.)

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo-desktop_6.notes.png

comment:8 by astrid_emde, 7 weeks ago

Hello,

thanks a lot for the feedback.

I like number 6 too.

More feedback from the @osgeolive team members?

If we take number 6 as final I can work on the final image.

  1. what is the size/aspect-ratio for the default background
  2. fix border -> yes
  3. ornament fixes / foss4g logo move upwards
  4. thanks for the suggestions in the notes images - all good

I wrote a mail to the FOSS4G team waiting for their go. And then I ca nwork on the final image.

comment:9 by edso, 7 weeks ago

wrt. 1. you can probably take the last desktop images as orientation https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/commit/35916cc2b79d98ae830cf3f6a423a38ad4a817a9

professionally i'd suggest to design for a 3:2 (or 4:3) ratio and layout logo etc. so that it can be zoomed in safely as 16:9. the lubuntu desktop supports "Zoom to image to fill entire screen". that should cover the basic setups.

WallpaperMode=zoom would the need to be added here https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_desktop.sh#L47

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/Screenshot%202024-11-01%20124228.png https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/Screenshot%202024-11-01%20124301.png

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comment:10 by astrid_emde, 6 weeks ago

I received a new map from the FOSS4G team and worked on a new version of desktion 6.

See version_6_2

  • size 1024x768

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo-desktop_17_1024_768_version_6_2.png

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by astrid_emde, 6 weeks ago

by astrid_emde, 6 weeks ago

6_2 see how the desktop would ok like

comment:11 by astrid_emde, 6 weeks ago

This is how the desktop would look like.

  • I am not so happy with the contrast of the icons on the logo
  • the map is not sharp
  • you can not see the bottom line wit the pattern

Any idea how to improve it?

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/desktop_version_6_2_live.png

comment:12 by astrid_emde, 6 weeks ago

I created a version 7

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo-desktop_7_2.png

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/desktop_7_2_screenshot.png

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by astrid_emde, 6 weeks ago

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by astrid_emde, 6 weeks ago

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by edso, 6 weeks ago

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by edso, 6 weeks ago

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by edso, 6 weeks ago

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comment:13 by edso, 6 weeks ago

hey Astrid,

i took your design and tried to visualize some enhancements. just quick hacks nothing fancy.

  1. i reduced the opacity of the background elements to 50% for the icons and labels to become better readable (logo etc. should be excluded, for simplicity sake i didn't)
  2. desktop label text colors changed to black with grey50 outline
  3. design for 4:3 but with the possibility of cropping top/bottom to 16:9 in mind (see below). keeping the cute bottom border for 4:3 only would probably be a good idea. having the map start from the very top probably as well.

hope that helps.

design a 4:3 with borders on top/bottom

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/43-1024x768.png

that when cropped in a 16:9 resolution still works

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/169-1280x720.png

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/typo-colors.png

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comment:14 by edso, 6 weeks ago

just a quick concept.

  1. doubling the bottomborder height,
  2. rotate and place a copy on top too, shifted alignment of pattern for more interesting look.
  3. realign middle to fit better in 16:9

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo_quickdraft_ratios-v2 copy.png

comment:15 by astrid_emde, 6 weeks ago

Hello @edso, thank you very much for your feedback. Sounds very good. I will check later today.

comment:16 by astrid_emde, 6 weeks ago

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo-desktop_17_version_6_with_opacity.png

comment:17 by edso, 6 weeks ago

looks good. but

  1. something went wrong with the OSGeoLive 17 logo. the number has a corrupted outline.
  2. generally the logos could be bigger, maybe double the size
  3. and should be placed a little more image centered. older monitors tend to crop some pixels from the displayed content. usually 10% of width/height as distance are considered screensafe.

EDIT: just tested in a vm

  1. OSGeo logo needs to be put up as the taskbar overlaps it in 16:9 (see below) so maybe 20% distance to the bottom here to be safe

4:3 looks good

640x480 https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/640x480.png 1024x768 https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/1024x768.png

16:9 1280x720 https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/1280x720.169.png 3840x2160 https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/3840x2160.169.png

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comment:18 by astrid_emde, 5 weeks ago

@edso - thank you for the feedback. I moved the logo and made a PR for the next build. Hope it is ok now.

@edso - maybe you could work on the desktop image for version 18 :)

in reply to:  18 comment:20 by edso, 5 weeks ago

Replying to astrid_emde:

@edso - thank you for the feedback. I moved the logo and made a PR for the next build. Hope it is ok now.

if you attach i could doublecheck it

@edso - maybe you could work on the desktop image for version 18 :)

well, i offered in comment 3 already, but without source images there's little to do.

maybe a joint effort next time on a shared file platform, exchanging XCF/PSD until we are satisfied?

wrt. the PR

we will need to modify the desktop settings for the image to work properly, namely

Wallpapermode -> zoom
FgColor -> #000000
ShadowColor -> #7f7f7f

with changes to be applied here https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_desktop.sh#L47

holler if you need me to prepare a PR to that regard.

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by edso, 5 weeks ago

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comment:21 by edso, 5 weeks ago

ok, just received the alpha3 sporting the change

Version 17.0alpha3
====================
 * Desktop image for FOSS4G 2024 Belem

at this point i'd suggest @astrid_emde to simply provide the source images/composition for me to finalize it. it might save some back and forth in this thread. while positioning is better, it

  1. still has the outline issue on the number 17 (see screenshots).
  2. generally logos that seem more blurry than necessary
  3. as mentioned above, Wallpapermode,FgColor,ShadowColor need to be patched.

if you provide me the needed source data i will happily come up with a PR on github :)

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/169-1920-alpha3.png https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/logos.png

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by edso, 4 days ago

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comment:22 by edso, 4 days ago

finishing touches are up as PRs on github https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/pull/416 https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/pull/415

the result should look like these

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo1213-1024x768.png https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo1213-1920x1080.png https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/raw-attachment/ticket/2485/osgeo1213-1920x1440.png

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