| | 28 | {{{ |
| | 29 | <rbray> Lets start, Paul can join in if/when he shows up. |
| | 30 | <jasonbirch> I had a nightmare last night about ADSK going to annual releases for MGE, and dropping support for MGOS. This is taking up way too much of my brainspace :) I think it was triggered by reading one of Dave's posts on the MGE support newsgroups. |
| | 31 | <rbray> What post was that? |
| | 32 | <rbray> Don't loose any sleep over it, we are in this for the long haul. |
| | 33 | <Andy_Morsell> I just read that post a few minutes ago. About WFS in Enterprise and it being broken but fixed in Open. And that there would be a release of MGE in mid 2007 with the fixes. |
| | 34 | <rbray> I'll look later, let's get going with the meeting. |
| | 35 | <rbray> I have got new content for the both the CLA to make it project specific and a Corporate CLA. |
| | 36 | <rbray> I'll put those into PDF form and post for review soon. |
| | 37 | <jasonbirch> Short topic :) |
| | 38 | <rbray> Unless there are questions, that was all I had on that one... |
| | 39 | <rbray> Moving on. Drupal is giving me fits implementing my Navigation scheme. So... |
| | 40 | <rbray> We have two choices (or maybe more) |
| | 41 | <jasonbirch> I know... we're moving to SharePoint :) |
| | 42 | <rbray> yea thats it |
| | 43 | <rbray> I think it would be easiest at this point to build on expandable menu down the left side. |
| | 44 | <rbray> Until I figure out how to do what I wanted in the first place. |
| | 45 | <rbray> Another choice is to do something like drupal.org, use tabs and remove the left nav. But that is more work and restructuring than I care to do at the moment. |
| | 46 | <rbray> So any objections to one big expandable menu? |
| | 47 | <jasonbirch> Works for me. |
| | 48 | <rbray> Ok, I can do that sometime this week/weekend. |
| | 49 | <bdechant> sounds fine |
| | 50 | <jasonbirch> Menus in Drupal are painful. Last time I did this, I made my own block and hand-coded it to build from various tags / content types. All of that's gone from my brain now though (over a year ago) |
| | 51 | <rbray> Yea and that is what I will need to do in order to implement my original scheme. |
| | 52 | <rbray> I'll get there eventually, but I don't have the cycles right now. |
| | 53 | <rbray> So then trac should be integrated when I do the menus. |
| | 54 | <rbray> If anyone has cycles it would be good to get the rest of the content on wik.osgeo.org moved to the trac wiki. |
| | 55 | <jasonbirch> How do we get accounts? |
| | 56 | <jasonbirch> I can look at moving some of the RFCs |
| | 57 | <rbray> You should have it. |
| | 58 | <rbray> Login to trac using the same credentials you use to login to the Drupal site. |
| | 59 | <rbray> We opened the trac wiki up so that anyone in the LDAP can edit. |
| | 60 | <jasonbirch> How come there is a "Home" tab on the main site? :D |
| | 61 | <rbray> Oops. |
| | 62 | <rbray> Thats reminents of my hacking. I'll remove it. |
| | 63 | <jasonbirch> FramkW: does password reset work through Drupal? |
| | 64 | <FrankW> jasonbirch: no, i don't think so yet. |
| | 65 | <FrankW> I can manually reset passwords. |
| | 66 | <rbray> There was the form that Shawn put together to do that. I think it still works. |
| | 67 | <FrankW> rbray: it wasn't working for me last I tried, and you need to know your password to change it (assuming it is the _ldap/ldap.php page). |
| | 68 | <rbray> Yes it was this one: http://osgeo.org/_ldap/ldap.php. |
| | 69 | <rbray> And you need to know your password. |
| | 70 | <jasonbirch> sounds like an infinite loop to me... |
| | 71 | <rbray> It seems to sometimes work. Not the greatest solution I admit. |
| | 72 | <rbray> Ok, shall we move on to defects? |
| | 73 | <jasonbirch> Sure |
| | 74 | <rbray> So Jason took the defect XML from CollabNet and put it into an access database. |
| | 75 | <rbray> Which was impressive BTW. |
| | 76 | <rbray> But now what do we do with it? |
| | 77 | <jasonbirch> I can dump to web pages, or we could look at importing into Trac |
| | 78 | <rbray> The import to trac will lose all history. Trac import is really weak. |
| | 79 | <jasonbirch> Not if you write directly to the data model... |
| | 80 | <rbray> Well we could do that. |
| | 81 | <jasonbirch> I'm not sure how to do that without walking on the current tickets though. |
| | 82 | <rbray> I have not looked yet, how many unresolved issues are in there. |
| | 83 | <jasonbirch> I don't know either |
| | 84 | <jasonbirch> I'd have to query for records where last status update wasn't resolved I guess |
| | 85 | <rbray> YEs that would do it. |
| | 86 | <rbray> I am guessing there is only 20 or so... |
| | 87 | <jasonbirch> Counting enhancements? |
| | 88 | <rbray> Maybe I am dreaming. |
| | 89 | -->| pagameba (n=pagameba@gw.dmsolutions.ca) has joined #mapguide |
| | 90 | <rbray> Maybe we should just import the open ones. |
| | 91 | <pagameba> sorry I'm late |
| | 92 | <TomFukushima> I think that there is about 20-30. |
| | 93 | <pagameba> did I miss anything important? |
| | 94 | <rbray> Just gave you all the work of moving stuff on the wiki to Trac. |
| | 95 | <rbray> :) |
| | 96 | <pagameba> lol |
| | 97 | <jasonbirch> not joking... |
| | 98 | <jasonbirch> :) |
| | 99 | <pagameba> doh |
| | 100 | <jasonbirch> OK, maybe a little bit. |
| | 101 | <jasonbirch> What does Trac use as a database currently, SQLite PostgreSQL or MySQL? |
| | 102 | <rbray> I think it is using SQLite. |
| | 103 | <jasonbirch> Can I get a copy to play with? |
| | 104 | <FrankW> yes, sqlite, and I can provide the db. |
| | 105 | <jasonbirch> Thanks Frank... |
| | 106 | <rbray> if you can import the open ones that would be great. I think it would be useful. |
| | 107 | <jasonbirch> me too. as long as we don't get too much activity, I may even be able to retain the issue IDs. |
| | 108 | <rbray> That will be hard. Trac uses just a number. it was a MGxxx in PT |
| | 109 | <jasonbirch> Simple in FME or SSIS. |
| | 110 | <jasonbirch> Just strip the letters. |
| | 111 | <FrankW> jasonbirch: grab http://www.gdal.org/tmp/trac_mapguide.db.gz |
| | 112 | <FrankW> lol ... fme your ultimate RDMBS processing engine. |
| | 113 | <jasonbirch> Your site doesn't appear to pass the correct content-type for GZ :) |
| | 114 | <rbray> Yea unless Trac wants them to be consecutive. |
| | 115 | <jasonbirch> I'll have to look at that. |
| | 116 | <rbray> it maybe better to ignore the issue ID and let SQLite reassign them. |
| | 117 | <rbray> That way there can be no conflict. |
| | 118 | <jasonbirch> ok. I'll leave the old ID in the description or something? |
| | 119 | <rbray> Yea that would be fine. |
| | 120 | <jasonbirch> FrankW: Oh, the site passes the right content type; I forgot that browsers handle gz decompression natively. |
| | 121 | <bdechant> Thanks for doing this Jason. |
| | 122 | <rbray> Ok cool. Let us know how it goes on the internals list. |
| | 123 | <rbray> And yes a big round of thanks to Jason. |
| | 124 | <jasonbirch> No guarantees, but I'll give it my best shot. |
| | 125 | <FrankW> +1 |
| | 126 | <rbray> If you get something working maybe we can apply the same process to the FDO defects. Which would be even better. |
| | 127 | <rbray> Maybe you can offer this to everyone migrating off CollabNet :) |
| | 128 | <FrankW> lol |
| | 129 | <jasonbirch> No **** way. the XML-> db translation is hard. :) |
| | 130 | <rbray> yea I know. Just giving you trouble. |
| | 131 | <rbray> Ok, next topic: Google Summer of Code. |
| | 132 | <jasonbirch> I see lots of benefits, but I also don't have coding the skills to mentor someone. |
| | 133 | <rbray> I think finding mentors should not be hard. |
| | 134 | <FrankW> I believe OSGeo will establish a SoC Administor so projects wanting to participate would need to propose projects and mentors. |
| | 135 | <rbray> So then what we need to do is come up with a lsit fo projects with mentors. |
| | 136 | <jasonbirch> That would be awesome. I want placemarks in multigeometry KML polygons, and Chris hasn't added that to his latest RFC :) |
| | 137 | <FrankW> PS. think something a student could reasonably accomplish in a summer. |
| | 138 | <HarisK> I am working on combining Open source Google WebToolkit with MapGuide OS, is this something suitable ? |
| | 139 | <jasonbirch> Accessing data stored in Google Base? :) |
| | 140 | <FrankW> HarisK: this sounds like it would be an attractive propect for approval by google. |
| | 141 | <HarisK> and if some mentoring is need I am willing to help in |
| | 142 | <jasonbirch> ew, it's Java... :) |
| | 143 | <FrankW> I'd add the student gets 4.5K US. This isn't terribly attractive to North american CS students, but might be more so in some other parts of the world. |
| | 144 | <rbray> I can supply a mentor for something as well. |
| | 145 | <jasonbirch> Do we say what we want and then the students propose it, or do students get assigned to projects, or what? |
| | 146 | <FrankW> I think you propose projects and mentors first. |
| | 147 | <rbray> I'll start a wiki page and we can all add to it. How does that sound for a start? |
| | 148 | <jasonbirch> Sounds great. |
| | 149 | <FrankW> +1 |
| | 150 | <rbray> That will make sure we all get access to the Trac wiki too! |
| | 151 | <HarisK> fine |
| | 152 | <jasonbirch> That database file is SQLite 2.1. I don't think I have the ability to write to that. Have to look for an OLEDB provider I guess. |
| | 153 | <rbray> I'll send out the link later today. If you cannot login to the wiki, let me know and I'll send you the links to add yourself / check if you are in the LDAP already. |
| | 154 | <rbray> I think the SQLite site has an ODBC driver for it. |
| | 155 | <rbray> Anyone know when the deadline for the Google Summer of Code is? |
| | 156 | <FrankW> Not off hand. |
| | 157 | <FrankW> But I think you should aim for projects and mentors in about 3 weeks. |
| | 158 | <rbray> March 5: Mentoring organizations can begin submitting applications to Google |
| | 159 | <rbray> March 12: Mentoring organization application deadline |
| | 160 | <rbray> March 14: List of accepted mentoring organizations published on code.google.com; student application period opens |
| | 161 | <rbray> March 24: Student application deadline |
| | 162 | <rbray> Sorry just found it. |
| | 163 | <FrankW> so we have to have projects proposed by the 12th? Whew! |
| | 164 | <rbray> That is what it looks like. Here is the FAQ page I was reading: http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60325&topic=10729 |
| | 165 | <sigq`> Title: Developer Knowledge Base - What is the program timeline? (at code.google.com) |
| | 166 | <rbray> Ok that was all my topics. Anyone have other topics? |
| | 167 | <jasonbirch> This is cool. You have to click to display errors... http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=http://code.google.com/soc/soc_map.kml&ie=UTF8&z=2&ll=15.284185,-61.171875&spn=155.776464,326.953125&om=1 |
| | 168 | <sigq`> Title: Google Maps (at maps.google.com) |
| | 169 | <jasonbirch> no other topics... |
| | 170 | <TomFukushima> Oh, I added an item to the agenda |
| | 171 | <TomFukushima> Quick vote (I hope) on the new PSC page |
| | 172 | <TomFukushima> I added the section that we had discussed at the last PSC meeting. |
| | 173 | <TomFukushima> Agenda is here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/MapGuide_PSC_Meeting_02-22-2007 |
| | 174 | <sigq`> Title: MapGuide PSC Meeting 02-22-2007 - OSGEO (at wiki.osgeo.org) |
| | 175 | <jasonbirch> Remind me... |
| | 176 | <rbray> Sorry I needed to refresh. Got it now. |
| | 177 | <rbray> The issue is after an RFC is accepted how does it get changed if it needs to (probably due to implementation issues)? |
| | 178 | <jasonbirch> Right. |
| | 179 | <TomFukushima> Right. The section that was added is in the Agenda (it's short). |
| | 180 | <jasonbirch> I think that current wording covers that off well. |
| | 181 | <Andy_Morsell> That verbiage is fine with me. |
| | 182 | <rbray> Not real clear when it is required though. I assume the same rules apply as apply to requiring an RFC in the first place? |
| | 183 | <rbray> e.g. format changes from what is speced in the RFC? |
| | 184 | <jasonbirch> Gotta go. Sorry. Myu vote is +1 |
| | 185 | <rbray> or an API changes, or compatibilitiy will be affected in a different way? |
| | 186 | |<-- jasonbirch has left irc.freenode.net ("Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]") |
| | 187 | <TomFukushima> I would like it to be required for anything that an RFC is required for. |
| | 188 | <rbray> If that is the intent, them I would motion to approve. |
| | 189 | <bdechant> +1 |
| | 190 | <rbray> OK, so then I'd like to Motion to approve the update. |
| | 191 | <bdechant> I second the motion and +1 |
| | 192 | <TomFukushima> +1 |
| | 193 | <Andy_Morsell> +1 |
| | 194 | <HarisK> +1 |
| | 195 | <rbray> I am +1, so it is approved. |
| | 196 | <rbray> Any other topics? |
| | 197 | <Andy_Morsell> We had a topic flying around this morning about donations for specific or general functionality enhancments. Is that worth talking about as a PSC and should we table that until the next meeting since we're out of time? |
| | 198 | <rbray> Yes let's table that one for next meeting. We shoudl all take a look at the pages on sponsorship Frank mentioned in the e-mail. |
| | 199 | <rbray> Ok then I motion to adjourn. |
| | 200 | <rbray> Thanks everyone. |
| | 201 | }}} |
