Changes between Version 2 and Version 3 of Ticket #1817, comment 4


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  • Ticket #1817, comment 4

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    331. Regarding platform/wikihost for this [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Forms Page Forms] (''PF'') application:
    44   1. as noted above, development through at least alpha-testing can be done on a freehost (i.e., a free, external SMW provider, such as [http://referata.com/wiki/Creating_a_Referata_site Referata] or the [https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Main_Page SMW sandbox]), preventing problems with current wiki apps on current wikihost.
    5    1. deployment of all OSGeo assets should only be onto secure hosts, and moreover hosts for which OSGeo can maintain security (i.e., has required resources). If time/labor resources prevent appropriate maintenance of current wikihost, we should redeploy to an external provider. (See some details regarding those on the security ticket:1819; more to come.)
     5   1. deployment of all OSGeo assets should only be onto secure hosts, and moreover onto '''hosts for which OSGeo can maintain security''' (i.e., has required resources). If time/labor resources prevent appropriate maintenance of current wikihost, we should redeploy to an external provider. (See some details regarding those on the security ticket:1819; more to come.)
    661. Regarding deployment automation framework (''DAF''):
    77   1. [https://www.npmjs.com/package/mobo Mobo] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Schemas Page Schemas] (''PS'') seem approximately (ICBW) functionally equivalent.
    88   1. Mobo is apparently (ICBW) not currently available on any external SMW provider, while PS is available on at least 2 (Referata and [https://www.wikihoster.net/whn/Hauptseite WikiHoster]).
    9    1. Mobo is less well maintained than PS, and seems much less likely to track future changes in PF (the presentation layer which both DAFs target).
     9   1. Mobo is less well maintained than PS, and seems much less likely to track future changes in PF (the presentation layer which both DAFs target), and is not even secure WRT Node.js (its development framework).
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    2828The major ''implementation'' difference between Mobo and PS is that the former is external to MW, while PS is an MW extension. This leads to the major ''availability'' difference: at least 2 external providers (Referata and !WikiHoster) support PS, but I currently know of none that support Mobo. Hence I am using PS to develop the OSRC app.
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    30 There is also a ''social'' difference between Mobo and PS, regarding their developers/maintainers, which should not be ignored. Mobo is essentially [http://fannon.de/p/Schema-Driven_Development_of_Semantic_MediaWikis.pdf Simon Heimler's master's thesis project]: only one other person has [https://github.com/Fannon/mobo/graphs/contributors committed to Mobo]--by making exactly 1 commit. That thesis was submitted 18 Jul 2015. Of the [https://github.com/Fannon/mobo/commits/master commits to the Mobo repo] (archived [https://web.archive.org/web/20161201042350/https://github.com/Fannon/mobo/commits/master here]), the last functional commit was 25 Jan 2016, and the last commit of any kind was [https://github.com/Fannon/mobo/commit/50b1ebcf7edf8c3f4a195e2ee5e5846939775deb 18 Mar 2016] (archived [https://web.archive.org/web/20161201042651/https://github.com/Fannon/mobo/commit/50b1ebcf7edf8c3f4a195e2ee5e5846939775deb here]), in which Heimler withdraws his prior commitment to a version 2. Furthermore Heimler's last post to an SMW maillist was 3 Nov 2015 (per [https://sourceforge.net/p/semediawiki/mailman/search/?q=Heimler&limit=25&page=0&sort=posted_date%20desc this search]). Given Heimler's withdrawal from the community and the code, ISTM reasonable to assume that Mobo will be unmaintained for the forseeable future.
     30There is also a ''social'' difference between Mobo and PS, regarding their developers/maintainers, which should not be ignored. Mobo is essentially [http://fannon.de/p/Schema-Driven_Development_of_Semantic_MediaWikis.pdf Simon Heimler's master's thesis project]: only one other person has [https://github.com/Fannon/mobo/graphs/contributors committed to Mobo], and that person made exactly 1 commit. That thesis was submitted 18 Jul 2015. Of the [https://github.com/Fannon/mobo/commits/master commits to the Mobo repo] (archived [https://web.archive.org/web/20161201042350/https://github.com/Fannon/mobo/commits/master here]), the last functional commit was 25 Jan 2016, and the last commit of any kind was [https://github.com/Fannon/mobo/commit/50b1ebcf7edf8c3f4a195e2ee5e5846939775deb 18 Mar 2016] (archived [https://web.archive.org/web/20161201042651/https://github.com/Fannon/mobo/commit/50b1ebcf7edf8c3f4a195e2ee5e5846939775deb here]), in which Heimler withdraws his prior commitment to a version 2. Mobo is not currently even up-to-date WRT Node.js dependencies, where it already has [https://david-dm.org/Fannon/mobo security vulnerabilities]. Furthermore Heimler's last post to an SMW maillist was 3 Nov 2015 (per [https://sourceforge.net/p/semediawiki/mailman/search/?q=Heimler&limit=25&page=0&sort=posted_date%20desc this search]). Given Heimler's withdrawal from the community and the code, ISTM reasonable to assume that Mobo will be unmaintained for the forseeable future.
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    32 By contrast, both PF and PS are maintained by primarily maintained by Yaron Koren, a former core SMW contributor who remains very active on the SMW lists. PS has a [https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-PageSchemas/graphs/contributors much larger commit community] (including current and former core SMW contributors), and [https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-PageSchemas/commits/master much more frequent commits]. Hence it seems quite unlikely that PS will become abandonware; particularly it seems likely that PS will track any future changes in PF (unlike Mobo).
     32By contrast, both PF and PS are maintained by primarily maintained by Yaron Koren, a former [https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:SMW_Project#Contributors core SMW contributor] who remains very active on the SMW lists. PS has a [https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-PageSchemas/graphs/contributors much larger commit community] (including current and former core SMW contributors), and [https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-PageSchemas/commits/master much more frequent commits]. Hence it seems quite unlikely that PS will become abandonware; particularly it seems likely that PS will track any future changes in PF (unlike Mobo).