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05/19/07 05:03:09 (18 years ago)
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     1= IRC 2007-05-19 =
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     3== John's GUI proposal ==
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     5May 19 13:35:35 <HyperJohnGraham>       morning mloskot
     6May 19 13:35:40 <mloskot>       hi ho
     7May 19 13:35:44 <mloskot>       long night?
     8May 19 13:35:52 <HyperJohnGraham>       http://moss4g.telascience.org/Members/johng/wm5squarecenter.bmp/view
     9May 19 13:35:54 <ozbot> Title: wm5squarecenter.bmp MOSS4G (at moss4g.telascience.org)
     10May 19 13:36:20 <mloskot>       opening
     11May 19 13:36:28 <HyperJohnGraham>       http://moss4g.telascience.org/Members/johng/wm5squarecenter.psd/view
     12May 19 13:36:31 <ozbot> Title: wm5squarecenter.psd MOSS4G (at moss4g.telascience.org)
     13May 19 13:36:46 <mloskot>       very nice!
     14May 19 13:36:57 <mloskot>       What's the name of this software?
     15May 19 13:37:07 <HyperJohnGraham>       photoshop
     16May 19 13:37:24 <mloskot>       hmm, isn't this screenshot from existing software ?
     17May 19 13:37:37 <HyperJohnGraham>       no I made all this
     18May 19 13:37:42 <HyperJohnGraham>       get psd
     19May 19 13:38:00 <HyperJohnGraham>       lots of layers
     20May 19 13:38:02 <mloskot>       looks great!
     21May 19 13:38:43 <HyperJohnGraham>       i can export png s from the psd
     22May 19 13:39:00 <mloskot>       I think gimp can open PSD so I can do it myself too
     23May 19 13:39:02 <HyperJohnGraham>       or we can make a mosiac
     24May 19 13:39:10 <HyperJohnGraham>       yes gimp can read
     25May 19 13:39:20 <mloskot>       I will probably need to cut these yellow buttons
     26May 19 13:39:34 <mloskot>       and have them prepared in two states: normal and pressed
     27May 19 13:39:37 <HyperJohnGraham>       i have them all in layers
     28May 19 13:39:42 <mloskot>       cool
     29May 19 13:39:44 <HyperJohnGraham>       did that too
     30May 19 13:39:47 <mloskot>       wow!
     31May 19 13:40:02 *       mloskot 's face got covered with red
     32May 19 13:40:09 <HyperJohnGraham>       lots of layers not shown in bmp
     33May 19 13:40:15 <mloskot>       right
     34May 19 13:40:25 <mloskot>       I see we have similar idea about colours
     35May 19 13:40:35 <HyperJohnGraham>       :)
     36May 19 13:40:37 <mloskot>       When I was getting to bed yesterday, I was thinking in green too
     37May 19 13:41:03 <HyperJohnGraham>       i grabbed the osgeo logo to get colors
     38May 19 13:41:07 <mloskot>       I'm not sure about transparent window. In previous versions of Windows CE, transparent windows were not supported
     39May 19 13:41:10 <mloskot>       but I'll fix that
     40May 19 13:41:33 <mloskot>       Great thanks John!
     41May 19 13:41:39 <HyperJohnGraham>       :)
     42May 19 13:42:07 <mloskot>       That all I need to play with UI during next days
     43May 19 13:42:12 <HyperJohnGraham>       I will keep updating the psd with more lauers
     44May 19 13:42:18 <HyperJohnGraham>       layers
     45May 19 13:42:28 <mloskot>       I'll monitor these files
     46May 19 13:42:28 <HyperJohnGraham>       :)
     47May 19 13:42:52 <mloskot>       Do you mind if I won't try to get this white shadow around zooming slider?
     48May 19 13:43:14 <mloskot>       You know, I'm not going to use any OpenGL libraries for GUI or something like this ;-)
     49May 19 13:43:35 <HyperJohnGraham>       no problem :
     50May 19 13:43:37 <HyperJohnGraham>       :)
     51May 19 13:43:40 <mloskot>       drawing this blur is what I'd like to avoid ;-)
     52May 19 13:43:45 <mloskot>       ok
     53May 19 13:43:58 <mloskot>       What does F column and S column mean ?
     54May 19 13:44:01 <HyperJohnGraham>       http://moss4g.telascience.org/search_rss?SearchableText=wm5squarecenter
     55May 19 13:44:02 <ozbot> Title: MOSS4Gwm5squarecenter.psdwm5squarecenter.bmp (at moss4g.telascience.org)
     56May 19 13:44:09 <HyperJohnGraham>       focus
     57May 19 13:44:13 <HyperJohnGraham>       and select
     58May 19 13:44:56 <mloskot>       Select mean this layer is "active layer"
     59May 19 13:45:00 <mloskot>       but Focus ?
     60May 19 13:45:01 <HyperJohnGraham>       focus sets what layers return data in a query
     61May 19 13:45:06 <mloskot>       ah, ok
     62May 19 13:45:09 <mloskot>       queryable layer
     63May 19 13:45:13 <HyperJohnGraham>       yes
     64May 19 13:45:24 <mloskot>       So, in terms of ArcPad
     65May 19 13:45:27 <mloskot>       F == active layer
     66May 19 13:45:35 <mloskot>       S == active for features selection
     67May 19 13:45:37 <HyperJohnGraham>       sort of
     68May 19 13:45:39 <mloskot>       right
     69May 19 13:45:51 <HyperJohnGraham>       i want this to be multiple layers
     70May 19 13:46:03 <mloskot>       both?
     71May 19 13:46:17 <HyperJohnGraham>       yes
     72May 19 13:46:36 <mloskot>       So, window presenting feature query results will need to be tree-like view
     73May 19 13:46:40 <mloskot>       where node is a layer
     74May 19 13:46:42 <HyperJohnGraham>       the hilighted green layeris the active layer
     75May 19 13:46:57 <mloskot>       and subnodes are features being hit
     76May 19 13:47:43 <mloskot>       This screen gives overview of "viewer mode"
     77May 19 13:47:51 <mloskot>       Now, if a layer is selected for editing
     78May 19 13:47:57 <mloskot>       I think the toolbar should reload
     79May 19 13:48:04 <mloskot>       so editing commands are visible
     80May 19 13:48:18 <mloskot>       like add/move/remove geometry/vertex
     81May 19 13:48:20 <mloskot>       etc
     82May 19 13:48:28 <mloskot>       + Apply button
     83May 19 13:48:31 <HyperJohnGraham>       sure
     84May 19 13:48:33 <mloskot>       ok
     85May 19 13:48:45 <mloskot>       so we don't have too many toolbars and screen space is saved
     86May 19 13:49:09 <mloskot>       Great!
     87May 19 13:49:30 <mloskot>       And the status bar above should be:
     88May 19 13:49:36 <mloskot>       1 or 2 rows data height
     89May 19 13:49:58 <mloskot>       + I would like to give a user possibility to select what data to display
     90May 19 13:50:00 <mloskot>       or
     91May 19 13:50:20 <mloskot>       may be we could try to distinguish "screen modes" similarly to handheld GPS like Magellan Meridian
     92May 19 13:50:39 <mloskot>       there are 3-5 preconfigured screen modes, each providing different configuration of displayed details
     93May 19 13:50:42 <mloskot>       What do you think?
     94May 19 13:50:46 <mloskot>       ie.
     95May 19 13:50:50 <mloskot>       - editing mode
     96May 19 13:50:55 <mloskot>       - navigation mode
     97May 19 13:50:58 <mloskot>       - no GPS mode
     98May 19 13:51:01 <mloskot>       etc.
     99May 19 13:51:02 <HyperJohnGraham>       yes thats the same in my garmin
     100May 19 13:51:05 <mloskot>       right
     101May 19 13:51:25 <mloskot>       For example, in editing mode user does not need to get course of going, I think
     102May 19 13:51:32 <mloskot>       but in navigation, it will be needed
     103May 19 13:51:33 <mloskot>       etc.
     104May 19 13:51:44 <mloskot>       OK, I'll outline some proposal on the wiki
     105May 19 13:51:47 <HyperJohnGraham>       right
     106May 19 13:51:51 <mloskot>       so we can discuss it
     107May 19 13:52:05 <HyperJohnGraham>       ok
     108May 19 13:53:39 <HyperJohnGraham>       http://moss4g.telascience.org/Members/johng/layer_options.bmp/view
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