[wiki:ProjectSteeringCommittee Project Steering Committee - Home] == Meeting Info == The eighth meeting of the !MapGuide PSC will take place Thursday March 8th at 18:00 UTC (1:00 PM EST / 11:00 AM MST / 10:00 AM PST). Meeting Chair: Bob Bray Universal Time: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=03&day=08&year=2007&hour=18&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 Location: The meeting will be held on IRC at [irc://irc.freenode.net/mapguide #mapguide] == Agenda == * Google Summer of Code * Doxygen changes (where is the current config file, anyway?) * Status report for OSGeo newsletter: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/MapGuide_Project_Update_-_2007_Q1 * Are we interested in BuildBot? == Actions == * Project mentors to add google accounts here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/2007_Google_SoC_Application * Need to add project ideas (and mentors) for Swig enhancements (Java), SOAP/REST/etc interface, JSON support here as soon as possible (within 24 hours): http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/GoogleSoC2007 * Jason to figure out documentation stuff * Everyone to help out with OSGeo newsletter blurb * Jason to contact Mateusz about !BuildBot. == Transcript == {{{ Looks like I am late. Are we ready to start? Sure. You added lots of stuff. Shall we start with Goc? Complaining? Sounds good. All mentors need a Google account. Can we just add that info onto the wiki? Do we have all the projects we want listed? <--| TylerM has left #mapguide Add it here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/2007_Google_SoC_Application Title: 2007 Google SoC Application - OSGEO (at wiki.osgeo.org) I'd love to see more stuff done (especially the JSON output from MapAgent, and Java SWIG changes) but can't step up for those. I'd like to add one project for adding Web Services APIs (SOAP/REST/etc) to MG We can get someone here to mentor the JSON output and/or Java SWIG enhancements. I think. lol overcommiting? :) Only if we get students on all of them :) That should be REST/SOAP/etc... SOAP is painful and overkill, and I'm tired of having it crammed down my throat by "enterprise" apps :) How do you see these working? Just for the MapAgent stuff? Or as a generic framework for application development? Could be either. I'd like a more general approach to expose all the Service APIs to start. Then we can add to that. Sounds great to me. JSON could be added as an output type to those? That would make sense to me. Especially if it's REST based. My main goal would be to get a framework in place that we could later extend though. Something we can start experimenting with. Sounds good to me. perhaps xml-rpc is something to consider to And updating MapGuide through blog posts :) I've added some actions around SoC here: http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/PscMeeting03-08-2007 These are pretty time-sensitive. Title: PscMeeting03-08-2007 - MapGuide Open Source - Trac (at trac.osgeo.org) -->| zjames (n=zjames@209.217.116.147) has joined #mapguide everyone OK? Sorry, I got interupted by the phone. Back now. Yup still here afk. lucky you didn't get sniped :) Can everyone please update the GoC page by? Whats the required timeline, anyone know? Haris: XML-RPC is a good option too. Lighter than SOAP... Harris: so I'll add it to my project description as an option. real soon now. yes much easier to start with Let's say end of the week for the page to be complete, with google ids for all mentors. Sound ok? Haris, Paul, can you add a few more words to your descriptions? Assume the students don't know much about MapGuide ok, I will do that Jason: Paul is the absent PSC member today. March 12 is the application deadline. If we can do it be end of day today, it would be better. Not sure how possible that is. Hmm. Must be working on my stuff :) I can add my Web Service on today. Maybe he is helping with that FGS installer :) Better not be... :) I'll flesh out the Swig one. Not sure what to say about JSON. Can you incorporate it in WS? Ok, let's try and get the updates done today. Jason can you send a reminder on the PSC list after the meeting? Sure Jason: Yes I can do that. Trevor Wekel would be the mentor on Java/SWIG. Can you ask him to send me his google account? Or just enter it into the OSGeo application? Have all of our projects been copied into the application? Not yet. Linked currently. OK good. I'll ask him to send you his id or update the page. Ok, anything else on GoC before we move on? Jason, Is tommorow morning (CET time ) to late ? No Haris, I'm sure it's fine. Ok, next topic: Doxygen. I think that's mine :) I'd really like to see a couple things: generation of the PHP search script that is an option, and including inherited methods/properties in the class defintions. I could play around with this myself, but would like the existing conf file to start with... Inherited methods are there. Just click the All Methods link. I'll ask pubs to commit the config file. I did not realize it was not part of the repository. ? where's the All Methods link? In each class page. Oh found it I think. All Members. I find the system odd. It seems like there are two pages for each class or something. Yea, there may be a cleaner way by tweaking the config file. I don't know much about it. Search enabling is pretty easy. Looks that way. Frank would like us to cut down the size of the output too, but I am not sure what to cut. Hmm. Our documentation is proprietary :) Is it going to piss folks off if I start messing with it? (sorry, documentation DEVELOPMENT PROCESS) Not if the Open Source build uses it's own config file. We we should be doing anyway. We = Which Just need a few more volunteers :) I'm pretty happy with the activity on the mailing list these days, btw. Yes it is pretty balanced, with a lot more folks answering. Its not just the Jason and Andy show :) So if I get all this doxygen stuff added should I add a ticket and assign it to you? Having core developer involvement is still pretty darn important too :) (Thankfully) Sure :) I'd like to see a quick fix that adds the search script. And I'm sure that Andy_Morsell would too :) Hey helping OS users is actually part of our goals. I've been clamoring for searching ever since the switch to Doxygen. Performance measures? Yep. It's great because it shows corporate commitment. Does anyone care for the diagrams in Doxygen. Maybe that would be a way to cut down size. There are a few items I could do without. I do like the inheritance diagrams though. It's the huge graphs that aren't all that useful for me. They're almost impossible to read at screen resolution (maybe a wall poster would work) so I could live without the super granular diagrams. I'll try a few configs anyway... and maybe post them on my site. Sometime in December. hey, reload your browsers, I added an agenda item. So... Doh In general, this page really needs some work: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/MapGuide_Project_Update_-_2007_Q1 Title: MapGuide Project Update - 2007 Q1 - OSGEO (at wiki.osgeo.org) Ok, we are running out of time fast. Lets move on. Yes it does. Do you know Tylers deadline? If everyone could add some important items, add verbiage, maybe link to some implementations, then that would be great. Timeline is here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Newsletter_Volume_1 Title: Newsletter Volume 1 - OSGEO (at wiki.osgeo.org) I'll look up and add the dates of some of the other releases Ok, so we have a couple of weeks. I can certainly add some stuff next week. BTW - Thanks for getting the ball rolling on this Jason. On a personal note, I could really use some short notes on the history of proprietary MG for the article I'm behind on. I only came into it in 2001, and missed the whole ADSK acquisition, etc, etc. I didn't even get ColdFusion bundled with my second license. I'd be happy to get an input off-list. And I'll be expecting quotes from all of you at some point in the article. danmo included. OK, so over next week, can everyone look at that page and update as possible? Yes. Man, you're a busy guy Jason. I really don't know how you're doing all of this........ Jason, did you grab the stuff from the About page? (me neither) There's an about page? :) Yes it has some history. I can elaborate if you want more. mapguide.osgeo.org/about.html. That's useful. Must have read it at some point, but I don't remember. I'll come to you for confirmation. Sounds good. Now what about BuildBot? mloskot volunteered to help get us configured in April if we are. He'd done for FDO previously, but there didn't seem to be a lot of interest. Need to judge interest here first. And there are Windows VMs avaliable with buildbot agents on them. Cool. Well I am all for it. I think public builds is a good next step for the project. Here's FDO's broken (because of SVN changes) version: http://buildbot.osgeo.org:8501/ Title: BuildBot: FDO (at buildbot.osgeo.org:8501) That is as long as I am not doing the work :) My main reason for wanting this is that as we add platform support it will make sure that it is maintained. And if it isn't, the appropriate developer gets "blamed" :) Yea, but at the moment BuildBot is only running on FC4 yes? The server is, but I think there may be multple agents. Is the plan to run multiple VMs with different distros? Maybe? http://buildbot.osgeo.org:8500/ Title: BuildBot: GDAL (at buildbot.osgeo.org:8500) Hmm, all the telescience blades are running FC4. Not sure thate are any outside agents. http://buildbot.osgeo.org:8502/ Title: BuildBot: PROJ.4 (at buildbot.osgeo.org:8502) Both of these have different platforms building. Some of the telescience blades are running Solaris I think :) BTW, looks like the build bot for FDO needs to be updated to point to the new subversion repositories; that's why they are failing. How can you tell the platform? Osmosis (I don't think it's documented) TomMGOS: yes, but mloskot's been busy, and unsure whether anyone was benefiting from the FDO config. Click the build server link, there is a description. Sorry I am slow. Oh. Good. PPC build :) Anyone can even force a build from there. Nice We are internally still doing nightlys using BuildForge. But limited in platform to Fedora/Redhat. It would be great to open this up to different platforms. Right. Is it even possible to build MG from the commandline on Windows? Yes, that's how we build it. Would it be possible to add that stuff to the repository? We should probably document that magic at some point. It's easy to do with FDO because there are bat files; I'm missing that in MG. And I hate clicking in GUIs. :) We'll have to look. I don't see why we could not add them to SVN. OK, so there is interest in BuildBot. I'll let Mat know. Yep How is the PostGIS provider coming BTW. I have not seen a beta announcement yet. Getting closer daily. Looking at Monday (no, not last Monday) now though :( I can't wait to try it out. Ok gang is that a wrap for today. Me too. Thanks Bob. Ok, lets adjourn then. Thanks everyone. bye I've posted actions here: +1 Bye http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/PscMeeting03-08-2007 Title: PscMeeting03-08-2007 - MapGuide Open Source - Trac (at trac.osgeo.org) (paste error :) Thanks Jason. I'll post the transcript shortly. }}}