Opened 16 years ago

Closed 9 years ago

#2487 closed defect (fixed)

Dutch Coordinate System Not Working

Reported by: lxnyce Owned by: warmerdam
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: OGR_SRS Version: unspecified
Severity: normal Keywords: double stereographic
Cc: vincentschut

Description

From a customer :

Just so we know what we are talking about: the Dutch coordinate system is ‘Rijksdriehoeksstelsel’. Luckily that is commonly abbreviated to ‘RD’.

Most of that is just parameters, and we can fill them out basically. But what is fundamentally lacking is the actual projection formula used in that coordinate system. It’s the ‘Double Stereographic’ projection, used worldwide only in NL and on Nova Scotia. It is different from the regular stereographic projection, one that is supported….

Please find enclosed two point shapefiles, depicting the same points. One is in RD, the other one is in geographic coordinates on the WGS84 datum. Please also find enclosed a PDF (published by the Dutch Cadastre, the ‘owners’ of the coordinate system) describing the specs of the coordinate system (chapter 4.2.1 for latlong à X, Y, and 4.2.2 for X, Y à latlong)

Attachments (2)

Sampledataset.zip (25.6 KB ) - added by lxnyce 16 years ago.
Rijksdriehoekstelsel.prj (425 bytes ) - added by lxnyce 16 years ago.
The ESRI generated prj file

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Change History (8)

by lxnyce, 16 years ago

Attachment: Sampledataset.zip added

comment:1 by warmerdam, 16 years ago

Component: defaultOGR_SRS
Keywords: double stereographic added

Lennox,

I don't believe there is much I can do within GDAL till there is a corresponding PROJ.4 projection method. So I think the first step is to file a ticket in the PROJ.4 Trac, and to contact Gerald Evenden (via the PROJ.4 mailing list) asking if he would consider implementing this projection or if there is an existing one that actually matches it.

Once it is in PROJ, we can add it to OGRSpatialReference for use in GDAL and OGR.

PS. It would be helpful if you could append an ESRI .prj file for this coordinate system so I can ensure OGR WKT will match what ESRI does.

by lxnyce, 16 years ago

Attachment: Rijksdriehoekstelsel.prj added

The ESRI generated prj file

comment:2 by hogend, 15 years ago

This actually is EPSG:28992, so: +proj=sterea +lat_0=52.15616055555555 +lon_0=5.38763888888889 +k=0.9999079 +x_0=155000 +y_0=463000 +ellps=bessel +units=m +no_defs

comment:3 by warmerdam, 14 years ago

Cc: vincentschut added

There was an issue with the Amersfoort datum which is addressed in #1987. However, this ticket also suggests that proj=sterea is not a good implementation of the double stereographic projection. Is that right?

comment:4 by vincentschut, 14 years ago

Frank, thanks for adding me to the cc. However, I'm by no means a dutch RD proj(ection) expert (just happen to live there), and adding the datum transform values solved the problem for us then. That is, the results looked as we expected and appeared to fit with other datasets.

comment:5 by Jukka Rahkonen, 10 years ago

Current GDAL-dev from Gisinternals has # Amersfoort / RD New <28992> +proj=sterea +lat_0=52.15616055555555 +lon_0=5.38763888888889 +k=0.9999079 +x_0=155000 +y_0=463000 +ellps=bessel +towgs84=565.417,50.3319,465.552,-0.398957,0.343988,-1.8774,4.0725 +units=m +no_defs <>

Rather similar towgs84 values are reported in http://oegeo.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/note-to-self-the-one-and-only-rd-projection-string/ +proj=sterea +lat_0=52.15616055555555 +lon_0=5.38763888888889 +k=0.999908 +x_0=155000 +y_0=463000 +ellps=bessel +units=m +towgs84=565.2369,50.0087,465.658,-0.406857330322398,0.350732676542563,-1.8703473836068,4.0812 +no_defs <>

I would say that new Proj4 has right values now and this ticket can be closed as fixed.

comment:6 by Jukka Rahkonen, 9 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: newclosed

No reaction since my last comment 8 months ago. Closing.

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